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Capital Talk
Who are we,what is our National identity and culture? (Part 1)
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009
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Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:27:19 AM Raza Syed manchester, United Kingdom
very nice debate\r\n\r\nbut for 8 guests 40 minutes were not enough.it should be in 2 or 3 episodes.\r\nthanks for posting:)
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:19 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
good programe, shows us real face of a muslim pakistan, shame. we need sharia in pakisan, total change like iran in 1979. The real culture in pakistan is sharia without music, movies, theater, basant etc
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  Comment(s) Posted For Usman Peerzada
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:19 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
mister UP find any other job
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:04:09 PM Allama Ibne Khaldun Lahore, Pakistan
Urdu is a very bad language. Its syntax is identical to hindi. Only words of arabic, persian and turkish are added to it. The worst aspect of Urdu is that its CASTEIST. Its designed to immediately establish ranking and insult. The word TUM which is used often in speaking immediately puts the other in a position of contempt. You can just insult an older person by using tum and its so easy. Both English and Arabic lack this pronoun. That is why URDU and HINDI are inferior languages. I had a teacher, a respectable and refined mohajir who said: Always use Aap becuse, Aap say Tum aur Tum say Gali. Unfortunately, that cant be enforced. English only has you and and arabic has untu/unti. If Pakistan wants the key to culture, its in the Arabic as national language and it can be done in this age of media in only 10 years. Urdu will never develop. No one will write in it. India has given up on hindi and they learn english, russian, german etc. Arabic is our ONLY hope. Persian is a second option. Iranians have done a lot of work in persian and are proud of their cultural identity and are more homogeneous.\r\n\r\nEveryone should read the article by Agha Khan 3 freely available at many links:\r\n\r\nhttp://www.amaana.org/sultweb/arabicpak.htm\r\nhttp://www.amaana.org/sultweb/message.htm\r\n
Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:16:05 PM umair Multan, Pakistan
there is nothing to say about u
  Comment(s) Posted For Fozia Wahab
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:18 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
look at ladies between audience with dupatta and burqa, and look at her (*******)
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 8:16:43 PM Allama Ibne Khaldun Lahore, Pakistan
Historical Facts\r\n\r\nWe must look historical facts in the face. Urdu became the language of Muslim India after the downfall. It is a language associated with the downfall. Its great poets are of the downfall period. The last and the greatest of them was lqbal, who with the inspiration of revival gave up Urdu poetry for Persian poetry. There was a meeting in Iqbal’s honour in London organised by men such as Professor Nicholson.\r\n\r\nI was present at that meeting. Iqbal said that he went in for Persian poetry because it was associated with the greatness of the Islamic epoch and not with its misfortunes. Is it right that the language of the downfall period should become the national language of what we hope now is a phoenix-like national rising? All the great masters of Urdu belong to the period of greatest depression and defeat. It was then a legitimate attempt by the use of a language of Hindi derivation with Arabic and Persian words to find ways and means of better understanding with the then majority fellow countrymen. Today that vast British dependency is partitioned and succeeded by two independent and great nations and the whole world hopes that both sides now accept partition as final.\r\n\r\nIs it a natural and national language of the present population of Pakistan? Is it the language of Bengal where the majority of Muslims live? Is it what you. hear in the streets of Dacca or Chittagong? Is it the language of the North West Frontier? Is it the language of Sind? Is it the language of the Punjab? Certainly after the fall of the Moghal Empire, the Muslims and Hindus of certain areas found in it a common bond. But now today other forms of bridges must be found for mutual understanding.\r\n\r\nWho were the creators of Urdu? What are the origins of Urdu? Where did it come from? The camp followers, the vast Hindi-speaking population attached to the Imperial Court who adapted, as they went along, more Arabic and Persian words into the syntax of their own language just as in later days the English words such
Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:16:05 PM umair Multan, Pakistan
U r too much modern..Think about the Aakhirat also..U r supporting Jeans,,music,Dances u have to give justification for all these things to God. So please be realistic
  Comment(s) Posted For Masood Khawaja
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:19 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
mister MK find any other job
Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:16:05 PM umair Multan, Pakistan
U are man who knows all facts what is going on over stage dram,music etc... Plz make ur programs Islamic!
  Comment(s) Posted For Jawad Ahmed
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:19 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
he is a singer nd singing is haram in islam (******)
Friday, January 23, 2009 4:58:29 AM zia hussain oslo, Norway
Who said singing is haram? Where is it written? Did not some girls play \"daf\" and sing for the prophet?? I think it happened when he came to Madina.\r\nJawad is doing great work for the country by building schools.
  Comment(s) Posted For Ayaz Amir
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:18 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
he is a vise person but need
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:49:58 PM Allama Ibne Khaldun Lahore, Pakistan
Zaid Hamid has recently coined an interesting term: Hindu-Zionists. Its an appropriate term. We can also talk of Muslim-Zionists. Iranian president Ahmadinejad gives the best definition of the word Zionist:- A power party or group which seeks power and glory. Iranian president Moshe Katsa, a jew of iranian origin raped upto 13 Kosher Israeli jewish women himself. This is the character of zionists - Zur, Zun and Zameen. This is what they want by ANY means evil or not, whether, jew hindu or muslim.\r\nWho are muslim zionists ? Muawiya, Yazeed, and so on. They are the ones who demolished the IMAMAT of Hazrat Ali. They dont do Jihad of NAFS. They dont purify themselves. They dont enjoin truth. As for culture and literature, the BEST LITERATURE IN EXISTENCE IS NAHJ-UL-BALAGHA. The only muslim people to stand up to the zionists are Hezbollah of Lebanon living in a multicultural and liberal society of temptations yet sacrificing. Something to reflect.
Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:16:05 PM umair Multan, Pakistan
U r scholar but why u r supporting this culture.
Friday, January 23, 2009 4:58:29 AM zia hussain oslo, Norway
Bulle shah should come before Shakes spare. We have many great sufis in the past we need to learn about, together with islamic history. Such as fall of the Ottoman empire, we can learn about turkish rasism and arabs nationalism together it made it possible to make Israel in the heart of Muslim land. British and france made Muslims fight each other and thats how we lost Ottoman Empire.
  Comment(s) Posted For Senator Prof.Ibrahim Khan
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:18 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
maulana was ok but next time send Qazi sahib
Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:16:05 PM umair Multan, Pakistan
Sir i dont accept this thing from you.. You are also supporting this culture..
  Comment(s) Posted For Arif Lohar
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:19 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
singing is haram (******)
  Comment(s) Posted For Reema Khan
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:10:19 PM m s r KRISTIANSAND S, Norway
look at her she is (masoom tareen) girl from pakistan. noo soo chohe kha kar billi hajj ko challi(******)
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:20:53 PM Allama Ibne Khaldun Lahore, Pakistan
Urdu is not the national language of pakistan. The Bengalis never accepted it. The true national language of Pakistan was proposed by Agha Khan 3 who was the father of Aligarh Muslim University, President of the Pakistan Muslim league and of United Nations Organization twice. He was the true father of Pakistan. Jinnah was his trainee and was an Ismaili Khoja of Gujarati language group. Iqbal was not the poet of Pakistan. Its a lie. Many poets were there. Iqbal's progeny is womanizers, walid iqbal munib iqbal etc at Upenn, and Indiana etc. Urdu is the language of the urdu speaking mohajirs, MQM and East Punjabi ones. Musharraf allied with Bush on the 911 to stab the arabic linkage because the Bhaiya dont want arabic but Urdu. This gives them advantage and cultural satisfaction - but unfairly.\r\n
Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:16:05 PM umair Multan, Pakistan
Reema u have resources, make movies on Islamic topics. They are many stories..
Friday, January 23, 2009 4:57:37 AM zia hussain oslo, Norway
Urdu language of east-pakistan(you mean punjab). Punjabi is the language of punjab not urdu. We should learn Arabic and Persian but urdu is also important, it is also a part of our history. We should learn every pakistani language(balochi,saraiki,punjabi,urdu,sindi,pashtu)
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